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Samsung Q1 Review by an Amtek T700 Owner

Last post 11-08-2006, 8:44 AM by ctitanic. 23 replies.
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  •  10-20-2006, 12:43 PM 12530

    Samsung Q1 Review by an Amtek T700 Owner

    I was getting ready to write about Samsung Q1 and I started with a tittle of "CT's Samsung Q1 Review" but then I began to look into all the material that I was going to use in this review and I thought that in reality what I had in my hands was a comparison between these two machines. Now that I own both I think that I can give a fair opinion about them or at least I can't be accused of giving a better rate to my own device.

    The Box

    Let's start with the box. The Q1 box gives you the feeling of opening something really refined. Like I said in one of my earlier posts, this box was made to attract buyers. The Amtek T700 is ok but you can see that it's a lot cheaper design than Samsung's. This is a clear example of how to use the box of your products as a marketing tool.

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    The UMPC

    One of the first I noticed when I took in my hands Samsung Q1 was how light it was: 1.7 lbs. TabletKiosk eo v7110 weight is 1.9 lbs. If you don't own yet a UMPC you wont understand yet what big difference makes these 0.2 lbs when you are holding one of these devices in your hand for a long period of time.

    The exterior design of Samsung Q1 is very attractive but to be honest I do not like how easy it get dirt with fingertips stamped everywhere. This is something that happens too in black color eo v7110s but not in the latest i7200 series from TabletKiosk and it's not that noticeable in white color v7110s like the one I own.

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    There are 6 features of Samsung Q1 that I like most:

    1- The integrated VGA Port. No because I use it too much but because I think that it's good to have it in case you want to show something in a bigger screen. This is definitely a good point for enterprise users.

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    2- The Integrated Ethernet Port. Believe it or not, still moments when you need to hook a portable PC to a LAN.

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    3- The Power Meter integrated in the main battery. This is a must have when you have more than one battery and you are getting old like me and have problems trying to remember if you charged what and when.

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    4- SRS Feature. The speakers in Samsung Q1 works a lot but a lot better than the single speaker of eo V7110. But it's not just the speaker. The software and Sound drivers used in Samsung Q1 are 1000 times better than VIA Sound Drivers and software. I have not been able yet to configure my eo to get rid of a annoying noise at the beginning of any sound. The SRS in Samsung Q1 work very well and I was surprised to see the stereo effect coming from two speakers that close located.

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    5- Two stereo microphones integrated with the unit. That's something that I do not use too much but for some people, to dictate a document will be a lot easier than to write it in this kind of machine. In another hand, there are situations where to speak a command is a lot easier than to tap in the screen few times.

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    6- Heat dissipation. Samsung's Q1 has the fan located in the top right corner and blowing the hot air from inside and away from the User .

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    The TabletKiosk eo V7110 has it in the left Upper side blowing the hot air right into user's left hand. And believe me that air get very hot in some occasions up to the point that it's uncomfortable to hold the eo with the hand on that way. The Q1 works a lot cooler than the eo v7110.

    These 6 points would make eo v7110 a perfect machine!

    Now, what I do not like.

    Samsung Q1 screen is too sensitive. I'm not saying that eo v7110 is better because it's hard to get anything done there using just your fingers. But I really think that something in between those two displays would be perfect. And if I have to go with one of them I'll stay with eo V7110 screen. Samsung's screen is so sensitive that your handwriting looks like the one of a 80 year old man with Alzheimer. A good illustration of what I'm saying is this ink note posted at JkonTheRun -I opted here to use James' note as an example to show that it's not an issue that I'm having alone.


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    Compare that note with the above written in my eo and you will notice the difference in the lines.

    The absence of a joystick mouse in Q1 kills me. In my eo v7110 I can hover on top of objects to get the hidden extra information like tips, links, etc and that is almost impossible when you are using the Q1. You have to click on top of the object to move the mouse and that sometimes ends kicking you to do something that you don't want or to a place where you do not want to be. The other thing that I don't like is the way used to implement the Tab and Hold or right click in Q1. In my eo I get that animated circle and then the contextual menu; in Q1 you just get the menu like in your PC when you do the right click.

    These two issues - the absence of mouse and the high sensitive screen - make the experience of writing documents not that pleasant as in a TabletKiosk eo v7110. At least for me.

    Performance

    Before we start comparing numbers lets say few words about these two machines. When a machine is designed the engineering team have a specific goal to reach and everything on that machine is put in there to help in that mission. If you want a machine for multimedia you are going to want two speakers, good microphones, a processor good enough to handle any video player and a video chip good enough for this same task. If you want a machine to handle a inventory control in a warehouse, there you don't need two speakers, you don't need a microphone and you do not need neither a very powerful processor or a good video card. Do you follow me? Because this is the case we have with Samsung Q1 and TabletKiosk eo v7110.


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    The Samsungs Q1 that I have uses a Intel Celeron Processor running at 900 Mzh. The TabletKiosk eo v7110 uses a VIA C7 processor running at 1 GHz. Q1 use a 915 GMS Intel-GMA900 chip with 128 MB of Shared Memory while the eo V7110 uses the VN800 from VIA with only 64 MB of Shared memory. 128 vs 64 of Shared Memory partially explains why Q1 is a lot better playing all kind of movie formats.

    Now lets start comparing numbers.

    My first test was the video Benchmark using 3DMark 2001:
    • Q1=2979 at 800x480x32
    • eo v7110=915 at 800x480x32
    • eo i7210=3486 at 800x600x16

    The Q1 can compete in this department with the TabletKiosk eo i7210 but the v7110 is not an adversary for these two UMPCs with Intel Processors and Video chips. While the 3D mark test was a very pleasant experience in Q1, in the eo, it skipped some tests because the video card did not support them.

    To complete my tests I ran one of the best benchmarks you can find and the only one designed for VIA processors: COSBI Open Source Mark.

    • Q1 = 493.3
    • eo v7110 = 364

    The Q1 performs around 30% better than Tabletkiosk eo v7110.

    is this a noticeable difference in real life applications? No unless you are playing videos. I have been working in my eo in all Office applications, in Visual Studio 2005, part of this review has been written in this device, I have even installed Vista, and I find the performance of eo to be enough to handle all these tasks.

    will the Q1 perform better in all these applications? Probably Yes.

    Conclusion

    So, is the Q1 better? No. There is not such thing as the best UMPC. The Q1 is good in many things but I find the button layout, the screen sensitive and the joystick mouse more important features for me than all those present in the Q1. I use for long period of time my eo holding it with my two hands -PSP style - something that I can't do with my Q1.

    There are many things that each company could learn from each other, that's for sure.

    The Q1 is the best multimedia UMPC while eo V7110 is a perfect working machine. The eo v7110 have a lot bigger selection of 2.5" HDDs that can be installed on it and they are a lot cheaper than the 1.8" used in Samsung's Q1. And it's a lot easier to replace the HDD in an eo than in a Q1. This probably will make the eo the option number 1 for any IT Manager in charge of any large Production Company.

    The Samsung Q1 and the eo V7100 are two completely different machines targeting two different market share.


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    Posted by CTitanic to ULTRA MOBILE PC TIPS at 10/20/2006 12:38:00 PM
  •  10-20-2006, 2:25 PM 12538 in reply to 12530

    Re: Samsung Q1 Review by an Amtek T700 Owner

     

    CTitanic, thank you for your review.

    Reading your review, i am very satisfied having the R2H. It has the performance and graphics of the Q1, and the screen sensitivity and controls of the EO. Allmost exactly what i wanted. In the future, i am going to upgrade the RAM with the1GB module. Further, i hope that an extended battery will be available.

  •  10-20-2006, 7:26 PM 12547 in reply to 12530

    Re: Samsung Q1 Review by an Amtek T700 Owner

    CT, you covered a lot of ground in this review, and I think you make a lot of good points. There's nothing that I can say I find fault with.

    I would, though, like to observe that if you had bought the Q1 first, and then gotten the eo as long after the Q1 as actually happened, if you'd have been criticle of the eo for being too insensiitive. I know when I have upgraded PDAs, I have often had to adjust my style to deal with the differences in screen response between the old and the new. Eventually I adjust. (I never did like the 8125, but I was never able to tell if it was the under-powered CPU they put in it, or if it was simply a very touch insensitive screen.) I still miss my iPAQ h2215. It became outdated in the software department, but with the right screen protector, it was a joy to write on.)

    It probably will continue to annoy you if you continue to use both the Q1 and the eo, but if you had replaced the eo witht he Q1, I fell pretty secure in venturing that you'd eventually adjust to the differences in screen sensitivity. As it is, you will probably continue to experience some cognitive dissonance when you switch between the 2 units, because of the different screen sensitivities.

    Woadan

  •  10-20-2006, 8:04 PM 12549 in reply to 12547

    Re: Samsung Q1 Review by an Amtek T700 Owner

    Well, I have been around Pocket PCs since 2001 and I have owned around One per year and I always adapt myself very easily to new devices. But I can't get used to Q1 screen. If I had bought or got the Q1 first and the to after I would have a better experience using the eo because I never touch the screen with my finger unless I really need it. I'll port later two screen shot of my own handwriting a both machines so you can see the difference.
  •  10-20-2006, 9:18 PM 12550 in reply to 12549

    Re: Samsung Q1 Review by an Amtek T700 Owner

    In my review about the Q1 I wrote:

    Samsung's screen is so sensitive that your handwriting looks like the one of a 80 year old man with Alzheimer.

    And I have been asked to explain more about this point. To do that have I have prepared two screen shots:

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    And this second is from my Q1 where I have marked those part where you can see clearly that lines do not look like straight lines.

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    Posted by CTitanic to ULTRA MOBILE PC TIPS at 10/20/2006 09:06:00 PM
  •  10-20-2006, 10:12 PM 12551 in reply to 12550

    Re: Samsung Q1 Review by an Amtek T700 Owner

    CT, I'm not trying to minimize your feelings on the matter, but I can't see an appreciable difference in the results of the 2 devices. I can tell that the handwriting is probably by the same person, so the only thing I can think is the issue is with what happens while you make the input. And in the end, if you don't like it, you don't like it.

    Vive le dfiierence!

    ;-)

    Woadan

  •  10-20-2006, 10:26 PM 12552 in reply to 12551

    Re: Samsung Q1 Review by an Amtek T700 Owner

    Woadan,

    I will say in CT's defence he is the man who own's both devices, he would probably realize a difference better than us.
    (but i agree that the difference isn't too noticeable from our end)

    CT  -- Great comparison!  you are just making me more impatient about my order from CDW!  I want my Q1b NOW!  (it may be here next week)  Here's a question CT, the Q1 is always shown with that handstrap, how useful is it?  Is it something that you use regularly with the device?
  •  10-20-2006, 10:35 PM 12556 in reply to 12552

    Re: Samsung Q1 Review by an Amtek T700 Owner

    The difference is more noticeable in the TIP but I have not found a way to get a screen shot of it. But any way... when I got the Q1 and used the  TIP for the first time I  rendered about James  Kendrick ink note. If you can see what I'm saying  there then there is nothing that I can do about it.

     This is not a big issue. It  just does not look good.
  •  10-20-2006, 10:37 PM 12557 in reply to 12552

    Re: Samsung Q1 Review by an Amtek T700 Owner

    propstm:
    Woadan,

      Here's a question CT, the Q1 is always shown with that handstrap, how useful is it?  Is it something that you use regularly with the device?


    Yes. I use it all  time. I make me feel safer.
  •  10-20-2006, 10:39 PM 12558 in reply to 12557

    Re: Samsung Q1 Review by an Amtek T700 Owner

    I can't believe that you can't see the differences in my two notes. Maximize them and but them side by side.
  •  10-20-2006, 10:53 PM 12559 in reply to 12558

    Re: Samsung Q1 Review by an Amtek T700 Owner

    Yep, i needed to maximize to notice the difference.  Sorry.

    Thanks for the strap update.  It's good to know it's useful.  I've had a few heavier devices namely a PDA that had a handstrap I'd tried it a few times and had the PDA take a nasty spill because the strap snapped.
  •  10-20-2006, 11:10 PM 12560 in reply to 12559

    Re: Samsung Q1 Review by an Amtek T700 Owner

    Actually the differences of handwriting are not due the 80 g/120 g touchscreens.

    This issue  "crappy looking handwriting" is due the touch drivers/bios.

    q1 doesn't have tablet os hid drivers but uses "normal" touch drivers.

    Same goes with 7210/7209.

    I got vista running on 7210 with these "real" hid drivers and now my handwriting looks good on it, even with 80g touch...

    I will release the video soon about vista and these issues....

  •  10-20-2006, 11:31 PM 12561 in reply to 12560

    Re: Samsung Q1 Review by an Amtek T700 Owner

    JKK:

    Actually the differences of handwriting are not due the 80 g/120 g touchscreens.

    This issue  "crappy looking handwriting" is due the touch drivers/bios.

    q1 doesn't have tablet os hid drivers but uses "normal" touch drivers.

    Same goes with 7210/7209.

    I got vista running on 7210 with these "real" hid drivers and now my handwriting looks good on it, even with 80g touch...

    I will release the video soon about vista and these issues....


     
    Now that you mention that I think that  you are right.
  •  10-20-2006, 11:34 PM 12563 in reply to 12561

    Re: Samsung Q1 Review by an Amtek T700 Owner

    I am right ;) 

     

     

  •  10-20-2006, 11:40 PM 12564 in reply to 12561

    Re: Samsung Q1 Review by an Amtek T700 Owner

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